Madara or Maigh Dara, the plain of the oak, comprises approx 60 acres or 0.25 sq km’s. It has retained its name, with some small tweaks, since its earliest recorded mention in 1586 in the Inchiquin Papers. It had been sparsely populated, despite its proximity to the village, until the Maigh Dara housing development was constructed twenty years ago.

This 1842 6” OS map shows the very low density habitation in the townland. Note the absence of the Ballyhannon North road at its NW corner.

Historical ownership and growth

Down Survey Name: Maddara.  1641 Owner(s): Sir Daniell O’Bryan (Catholic). 1670 Owner(s): James Rice (Protestant), Unprofitable land: 18 plantation acres. Profitable land: 182 plantation acres. Forfeited: 182 plantation acres. Note: boundary definitions and unit measurements of land have changed over time.

1659 & 1661 Tenant in actual occupancy in Madara: Thomas Creagh (see historical references at end of post).

1851 census population: 15. Habitable buildings: 3

1855 Griffiths Survey of land owners in Madara: Patrick Moylan, Patrick Walsh, Robert Westropp

1861 census population: 10. Habitable buildings: 2

1871 & 1881 census population: 7. Habitable buildings: 2

1891 census population: 11. Habitable buildings: 3

1901 census population: 17. Habitable buildings: 3. Census family names: Moylan, Curry, O’Loughlin

1911 census population: 20. Area: 66 acres. Habitable buildings: 3

2023  see the ‘Small Area Census of the urban cluster of Maigh Dara, Manor View, parts of Quinville South & Quin Gardens’ below.

Housing developments

Maigh Dara is the development of 45 houses built almost 20 years ago. It takes its name directly from the townlands original name and no wonder it did so. The name is clear, simple and beautiful in any language. It is a good example of what can be extracted from existing place or feature names without having to create new ones.

Móinéar na Darach/Meadow of Oaks is the new development of 16 homes currently under construction at the rear of Maigh Dara. The name is presumably inspired by the townland name and makes reference to the sometime presence of oak trees at this location. Can a site with trees still be considered to be a meadow? This development will be a welcome addition to the overall development of our growing village. Lets hope the correct placement of the ‘fada’ is not overlooked for this name. Sales agents for the development are already committing this sin.

Small area Census information

The following 2023 census information is for the small area cluster of Maigh Dara, Manor View, parts of Quinville South & Quin Gardens as set out in the diagram below:

 

 

From the 1930’s Schools Folklore Collection:

P.256 Told by Pat Crowe, then aged 70

Patt Moylan of Madara Quin Co Clare was going to Limerick with a creel of pigs to sell. It is seventeen miles from Quin to Limerick. Patt started at twelve o’clock at night in order to be in time, as he had to walk the horse the whole way to Limerick. Going through Quin, all had retired to rest but he met a man dressed in his army officer’s uniform at Quin Cross. Patt was surprised because there were no soldiers nearer than Limerick but Patt remembered the story that an officer shot himself in a house at the Cross, the time the soldiers were in Quin very many years previously. Patt continued his journey and passing the field adjacent to the abbey he saw a host of people. Amongst them he recognised many people long since dead. Going through Rathlubry he encountered another ghost. This time he saw a white woman going with the wind and disappearing in the direction of Rathlubry Fort. Patt was not done with his adventures. Passing Thomond Bridge early in the morning his grey horse broke his leg.

2 monument sites North & North East of Madara:

CL034-131 Ringfort Cashel. Little is known about this feature but it has left remnants of its location on the ground which can be seen to this day.

CL034-132002 Ringfort Cashel. This would have been marked on early OS maps but nothing appears to remain of it today.

Loughaun

A lake is shown on early Ordnance Survey maps and named ‘Loughaun’(Locháin). This is a turlough (c. 50m E-W; 34m N-S) that fills up with water in wet weather and feeds a stream/Srutháin that flows in a southerly direction to the River Rine alongside the new Housing development in Quin Gardens. In the 1930’s schools folklore collection, there is a contribution called The Bad Spots in Quin and Clooney During the Night. One of the examples of ‘bad’ spots (#16) is described as follows:

“A white woman used appear on the Ballykilty road. She used follow people as far as the little stream called “Sruthán Bhéaga” but used never cross it”. This would appear to refer to this same stream/srutháin. If so, it would appear to be the only named reference to this little water feature available to us. 

Concluding comment

This area appears to be the focus for a number of new developments presently. Lets hope that the heritage of the townland or surrounding areas is used to inspire the names put forward by the developers. It is the view of the Quin Heritage group that it is better to use names, irrespective of language, that belong to the location rather than paying token gestures to the native language.

Historical references:

https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/statistics/archive/census1891/441_Area,_houses,_and_population,_Vol._II,_Ireland,_1891_Clare.pdf

https://archive.org/stream/historyandtopog00frosgoog/historyandtopog00frosgoog_djvu.txt

Other Website references

Census information

https://visual.cso.ie/?body=entity/ima/cop/2022&boundary=C04172V04943&guid=c5d5c3ac-740d-4eae-a3b7-460bcefb21ab

National Monument & Heritage map

https://heritagedata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=0c9eb9575b544081b0d296436d8f60f8

What did the Anglo Normans ever do for us?

We are well aware of the impact of the Anglo-Norman invasion on our history, the undermining of Gaelic society and the replacement of our native structures. Poor old Diarmuid MacMurrough takes a lot of blame for all of this, despite the fact that Henry II in England had already sought and had been given approval by Pope Adrian to invade and civilise us. Henry was just waiting to finish his war in France before sorting us out!

Anyway, in they came, conquered, settled, married and eventually becoming more Irish than even ourselves, ‘níos gaelaí ná na Gaeil féin’! But besides building towns and castles, robbing our women (and probably taking our jobs!), what did the Anglo-Normans do for us – if anything?

Well, for one, they gave us a whole new suite of names, both forename and surname, to choose from.

The Norman influence on Irish surnames

Following the invasion of 1169, a large number of Anglo-French first and last names entered into Ireland. Many, such as Power, Browne, Fleming, Joyce, Burke, Barry, Costello, Nagle, Nugent, D’arcy, Roche and Walsh/Welsh/Wallace, are nowadays considered Irish and are commonly found in Clare. So, too, are those with the Fitz prefix such as Fitzmaurice, Fitzgerald, Fitzgibbon and Fitzpatrick which most people would regard as Irish as the shamrock. Fitz, meaning ‘son of’, can be considered the Norman version of Mac (it derives from the Latin/French ‘fils de’, meaning ‘son of’). Burke came from de Burgh, Roche from de Roiste, Power from de Paor.

In 1366, a law was passed that “Every Englishman do use the English language, and be named by an English name, leaving off entirely the manner of naming used by the Irish.” This was introduced to dissuade the settlers from adopting Celtic prefixes or forms of surname. It didn’t have much affect as many settler families added Mac or ‘O’ and Norman names evolved into an Irish form (eg McHenry, McArthur).

In 1465 a law was passed enacting “that every Irishman that dwells betwixt or amongst Englishmen in the County of Dublin, Myeth, Vriell, and Kildare … shall take to him an English Surname of one town, as Sutton, Chester, Trym, Skryne, Corke, Kinsale; or colour, as white, blacke, browne; or arte or science, as smith or carpenter; or office, as cooke, butler ….”

Many of the trades of the early medieval period such as Archer, Butler, Cooper, Carpenter, Draper, Skinner, Tanner found their way into our surnames. Other introductions from this period came from the mercenary soldiers who accompanied the Norman invasion: Walsh (meaning Welsh), Joyce and Fleming (from Flemish mercenaries) are examples.

Incidentally, the Normans usually took their surnames from the place of their family origins. So, D’arcy originates in Arcy in Normandy. De Clare originates in Clare in Suffolk where the Anglo-Norman family were based. While De indicated their place of origin, Le was used to describe them, eg Le Poer meant ‘a poor person’.

De Burgh – Burke – from a placename in Suffolk, France

Le Botilier – Butler – Occupation bottle steward

De Barra – Barry – from an estate in Wales

Le Waleys – Walsh – the Welshmen

De Angulo – Costello/Nangle – from Nangle Pembrokeshire

What of their influence on forenames?

 Many of the Normans forenames introduced here were of a biblical or European saintly origin.

 In 1922, Reverend Patrick Woulfe wrote extensively on the topic of Irish name origins as follows:

In the same manner Norman and English names became current in Irish families during the thirteenth and subsequent centuries. These have now almost completely supplanted the old Gaelic names. The names borne by the Normans and by them introduced into Ireland, were of three kinds :

 (1) names of Scandinavian origin which their ancestors had carried with them to Normandy ;

(2) names of Germanic origin which the Frankish conquerors had brought across the Rhine and which had ousted the old Celtic and Latin names from France ; and

(3) Biblical names and Latin and Greek names of saints,, which the Normans began to adopt about the beginning of the eleventh century.

Together with these came in a few Celtic names from Brittany, a small number of Anglo-Saxon names, some Danish and Norse names from England, and one or two British or Welsh names. These were nearly all very rare and most of them soon died out. Of the Anglo-Saxon names, only two, Edmund and Edward, survived. Alfred has been revived in recent times. At the period of the Invasion, Frankish names were by far the most popular among the Normans, but Biblical and saintly names were coming rapidly into favour.

The following is a list, in order of frequency, of the more common names borne by the early Anglo- Norman invaders, the Biblical and saintly names of Latin and Greek origin being printed in italics :

William, Robert, Richard, John, Walter, Roger, Ralph, Adam, Hugh, Henry, Thomas, Nicholas, Gilbert, Geoffrey, Elias, Peter (Piers), Osbert, Reginald, Jordan, Simon, Alan, Stephen, Philip, David, Arnold, Alexander, Laurence, Baldwin, Herbert, Martin, Maurice, Godfrey, Andrew, Alfred, James, Samson, Turstein, Warin, Ailward, Daniel, Edward, Gregory, Bernard, Benedict, Hamon, Matthias, Michael, Gerard, Gervase, Lambert, Wilkin, Patrick, Edmund, Edwin, Hubert, Ivor, Joseph, Oliver, Mark.

 The following in alphabetical order were rare :

 Abraham, Adelard, Ailmer, Antony, Augustine, Brian, Clement, Constantine, Estmund, Eustace, Everard, Gocelin, Isaac, Leonard, Luke, Matthew, Miles, Milo, Odo, Osbern, Osmund, Pagan, Ponce, Randulf, Redmund, Rodulf, Silvester, Turold, Ulf, Vincent.

 The following names only came in, or at least became popular, at a later period :

Bartholomew, Christopher, Francis, Gerald, George, Paul, Roland, Theobald.

 Women’s names among the Normans were nearly all of the Biblical or saintly class:

 Agnes, Alice, Amelina, Anastasia, Annabella, Catherine, Cecily, Christina, Dorothy, Egidia, Eleanor, Evelyn, Frances, Honora, Isabella, Johanna, Matilda, Margaret, Susanna.

 The name Mary does not seem to have come into use in Ireland before the end of the16th century. Brigid only began to be used about the same period.

 

Extracted from ‘Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall’, Patrick Woulfe 1922

Out with the old, in with the new

The Anglo-Normans also brought with them new animal species such as the rabbit and fallow deer, new foods such as wheat, orchard fruits, mutton and farming practices such as hay-making. They introduced us to continental European religious saints and practices of the Roman Church. European religious orders soon followed such as the Franciscans, Augustinians, Cistercians, Dominicans etc. These replaced the structures of the native Irish Christian Church.

Up to then, the Irish natives did not adopt the name of saints as they considered this to be placing themselves on a par with the saint. Such naming convention was reserved for those of higher status in the monasteries. This was circumvented by use of the prefix Maol or Giolla meaning follower or servant. The Normans changed all of that and it was now acceptable to be called Peter, James, Michael, John, Mary, Brigid or Margaret.

Very few of us to this day do not have either a forename or surname that is not of Norman origin. Eventually, arising from the Gaelic Revival in the late 19th century, new Irish language versions of these forenames appeared such as Séan, Seamus, Peadar, Máire, Bríd, Mícheál, Cathal and many more appeared.

The Irish Church did not condemn the practice of slave-trading by the Irish until the invasion by the Anglo-Normans and the encroachment of the Roman Church. The story of Patrick (Patricius, son of a Roman administrator), which was introduced here after the Norman conquest, presents the native Irish as uncivilised pagan slavers who needed to be brought to heel. So the Normans inadvertently gave us our native saint and a forename for a good chunk of our population for generations following.

Out with the new, in with the old

Children are rarely given these European saint names today. Authentic Gaelic forenames are much more popular. We are nevertheless, unlikely to see the demise of the Anglo-Normans surnames that were introduced here. But all of us Mikes, Jimmies, Johnnys, Paddys, Kittys, Cathys, Maggies and Bridies can thank the Normans for what they brought us!